Letter(s) from the Editor(s)

Goodbye for Now – Thanking You Since 2009

Well, here we are, Edmonton. Time to shut off the lights and close down the joint.

Two or so years ago, if you had told either of us that we’d reach this point – 1500+ posts, a 6 part TV series, a variety of live webcasts, a fancy pants best blog award and the funniest, smartest, best-looking audience in the city – we’d have called you crazy. And not just because we lacked a basic understanding of the INTERNETS (the files are IN the computer?).

the edmontonian has come farther than we ever thought it could, and honest to God, no one is more surprised by that than we are. So we’d like to take this last minute to thank you guys, truly, and from the bottom of our hearts, for welcoming us into your lives for the last 2+ years. Whether you were writing or reading, talking or listening, commenting or contributing – every time you guys took a chance and got involved, trusting us with your stories, your submissions or your attention, we marveled. We marveled that for some reason, in this metal box full of lol cats and juggalos, you chose to talk to us.  There is no greater compliment, and we have been humbled by it every single day.

As you may know (we talked about this with our friends at the Unknown Studio), we didn’t start out as Edmonton enthusiasts. In fact, neither of us were particularly thrilled to find ourselves living in the City of Champions, but we decided to make the best of it and kill some time by starting a website. And two years later, here we are.

That is likely the biggest thing we’ve learned from the edmontonian: that when you stop trying desperately to get somewhere else, and you show up to what’s really happening right here, right now – magic happens. Every time, without fail.

You get one life, guys. Let’s make a joint agreement that we won’t spend it waiting for the perfect moment, the perfect bank balance, the perfect job opportunity, the perfect weight, the perfect education, the perfect someone. Figure out what matters to you and go get it – not as a means to get somewhere else, but for its own sake; because you love it so much it keeps you awake at night. That’s all we ever did, nothing more – and it turned out pretty well for us.

So let us dedicate the last two years to all of you guys – for your ideas, your kindness, your generosity, and more than anything, for giving us a reason to show up right here, every day. There are no words to ever sufficiently express our appreciation, our respect, our love. If the edmontonian was ever anything special, it was only because of you.

Until we meet again!

Your friends,

Jeff and Sally


We’ve Had A Good Time

Dearest Edmonton,

Sally and I have had an amazing time here at the edmontonian. The last two-and-a-half-years have been full of good people, good ideas, fun, and Edmonton. So much Edmonton.

But, we are fulfilling that prophecy that all good things must end. Friday, September 9 will be the last day for the edmontonian.

Don’t worry – this is not a sad decision for us – so don’t you dare be sad! :D We have had a great time editing the edmontonian, and getting to know you guys, meeting interesting and energetic business owners and artists, sharing your stories, contributions, and conversation. We’ve met so many people, a lot of them in real life too, and worked with some inspiring Edmontonians. That never would have happened without the edmontonian.

Our heads are bursting with ideas and schemes (seriously, call the head hospital!) and this will let us make space for new things to come our way. We’re confident many of our contributors, collaborators, and commenters are also just beginning to make their mark, and we can’t wait to see new projects, hijinks and plans Edmonton is home to.

We’ll be looking back over the next couple of weeks, and invite you to do the same in any posts, photos, videos, Microsoft Paint work, and spoken-word poetry, you see fit.

Your contributions, as always, are most welcome.

Jeff and Sally


That’s All Folks

Where does the Internet come out?

Yup, we’re done our series on ShawTV. the edmontonian presents has been an immense amount of work, especially for Sally who did ALL of the post-production, but it was also great fun to have new conversations with, and about, Edmonton.

We appreciate the help in the last few months from people who produced videos, came up with ideas, starred in cold opens, sponsored the program, talked with us on-camera, fact-checked, shared music, performed their music live for our closing segments, provided us with photos, videos, or other materials, offered up spaces to work and record, and gave us support in any and every other way.

While we’re clearly on the Internet, we know there’s still a lot of power in traditional mediums like television but they just need to be shaken loose of the murders and Jersey Shore formula. This also proved to us that it truly is, and always has been, about the content. (This all seems very timely with the Marshall McLuhan celebrations happening in Edmonton this year.)

We hope you enjoyed something in one of the six episodes; whether a story, information you didn’t know about, a song or band you hadn’t heard before, people doing things here that get you excited, a business you’d like to shop at, restaurants you’d like to try, or just the general idea that local television can go way beyond the 6 o’clock news.

Now here’s something we can all do!

We can all write to the heads of television networks and TV programming and let them know we think there’s still plenty television has to offer in the Internet age, and that we’d like to see them cool it with the Hollywood purchases and spend as much as they can on Canadian, local, and original programming.

Here are some people to start with:

Mr. Keith Pelley, President of Rogers Media (CityTV) – keith.pelley@rci.rogers.com

Ms. Barbara Williams, Senior Content Director at Global Television (Global TV) – barbara.williams@shawmedia.ca

Mr. Phil King, Programming President of CTV (CTV, ACCESS) – phil.king@ctv.ca

Ms. Judy Piercey, Managing Director at CBC Edmonton – judy.piercey@cbc.ca

Oh, and if you want to be on TV right away, you can contact the folks at ShawTV about volunteering on one of their programs or having your own show (just like we did).

 


DIYalogue

This past weekend, we were invited to be on a panel of Speed Mentors (FYI, also the name of my new deep house project) at Edmonton Next Gen’s super cool DIYalogue. Obviously a wildly flattering invite, both Jeff and I showed up to the party cleaned and fully clothed, lest someone figure out that we’re really in no position to advise anyone of anything. But it was an honour to be at an event that featured local movers and shakers like The Royal Bison, The ARTery, Solidaritees, dEdmonton, Parlour Magazine, City and Dale, Fridget Apparel and SOS Fest.

As part of our “mentoring,” we figured we’d better make a list of the upwards of four things we’ve learned from working on the edmontonian. That evolved into a handout, which we brought to share with anyone interested – and just in case you happen to be a blogger, content generator, or other interested party, we figured we’d post it here too.

Click below to download.

Click to download our "Tips for Content Generators" handout


The Terrible Twos

sex and the city, the edmontonian, 2You know what? We almost forgot it was our birthday today.

But, then, we remembered there was a reason we spent an hour on YouTube looking at confetti cannon videos.

(READY THE CONFETTI CANNONS!)

Two-years-old. Now we get to be all cranky and agitated and you just have to deal with it. Ha!

Yup, two years ago, on this very day, Sally wrote the post that launched a blog. I quickly followed that with a post of my own (Stop upstaging me, Poulsen!) and we kicked off an Edmonton conversation that’s still going. It’s neat to look back at those first two posts and see that most of the goals and aspirations we had for the edmontonian actually happened, and are still being worked on today.

It’s also crazy to think about actually being around for two years. I’ve had couches that didn’t last that long.

This isn’t mine and Sally’s website though, it’s only here because people want it to be here. Without contributors, commentors, and an Edmonton conversation I don’t think we stick around this long.

The list of everyone that’s helped us, including writers, photographers, sponsors and advertisers, designers, video producers, and those involved in the edmontonian celebrates democracy (our election show), Saturday Night with Samsonow (basically a vehicle for Pepe) and the edmontonian presents (our new show on ShawTV), are way, way too numerous to thank. (You can also poke around the Guest Blogger, Feature, and opinion categories for a quick snapshot.) I’d totally leave people out and feel awful. I hope some of them pop into the comments so you can thank them personally. (And lots of them are on Twitter too.)

Edmonton is a great city. It’s not the world’s best, the largest, or the most nougat-filled, but it’s a great place to live. There are amazing people, fantastic businesses, fun activities, plenty of sports, tremendous music and art scenes, gorgeous geography, and passion. Sure, there are bad things, but every city has those too.

We are proud to have discovered Edmonton’s best and creative sides, and we are prouder to be able to share that with Edmontonians, Albertans, Canadians, and moon people.

(FIRE THE CONFETTI CANNONS!)

 


Headlines Will be Delayed Today

Jeff is busy making TV for us this morning, and I never learned to read, so headlines will be delayed until this afternoon.

We applaud your patience.

 

In the meantime, if you’ve seen any stories you’d like to discuss, or that you feel Jeff should include in his headlines, feel free to mention them in the comments of this post.


You’re The Best, Edmonton

We have been waiting two years to use this graphic.

 

I mentioned it in today’s Headlines, but we have somehow been voted Edmonton’s Best Local Blog. You probably confused us with “Edmontonians.” We get that all the time.

But, if SEE Magazine doesn’t do a recount, and people out there like the edmontonian enough to cast a vote, I owe everyone who helps creates the edmontonian a big, big thanks.

This website (and TV show) aren’t the Jeff and Sally show. Oh sure, because we edit the blog we get to write as much as we want. But since the edmontonian is an online community newspaper; an interactive, collaborative, community hub, it can’t actually exist as the Jeff and Sally show. (more…)


the edmontonian presents “money”

Our love affair with local television continues. Episode two of the edmontonian presents aired on ShawTV last night, and “money” can now be found online and on iTunes.

We’re back with a new episode May 22!

There are still plenty of ways for you to be a part of the show. Check out our “helping” page for the edmontonian presents.


We’ll be back after these messages…

So, you might have heard about this show we’re doing on ShawTV. If only because we go on and on about it.

Like this:

Well, episode 1 is set to premiere May 1, and we’re working like busy little bees over here at the edmontonian world HQ. It also means we need a few days to put the finishing touches on our first episode, and start keep working on the following five episodes of the edmontonian presents.

That all means the website will be pretty quiet for about a week. (We’ll still be around, lurking, deleting incessant soup remarks.)

In the meantime, watch as much Parry Gripp as you can and think about being part of the television show by recording one of many short segments for us. (You can also e-mail me if you’ve got ideas or questions.)

Oh, and it’s Easter, so Sally needs time to hide a bunch of eggs for me to find on Sunday morning.

See ya next week!


TV Timeout

Just like in the sports world, we need to take a TV timeout. We’re still around, just working like mad on our TV show (premiering in May on Shaw TV). So, we’re going to step back to deal with deadlines, and the fact I need to shoot every subject from about 50 different angles to get it just right. I’m an auteur!

Your ideas, videos, and submissions are most welcome, since we’ll be putting together the episodes over the next few weeks. Hit us with your genius, Edmonton!

Your genius/ways to get yourself on TV may include:

Oh, and while it may not seem totally relevant, I feel like I should note that we’re doing this (as with most of our endeavours) pretty much for free. So, share with us your videos and bear with us through the bumps and bruises (and we’re always taking donations to the local media cause at our PayPal).

But, if this works, man oh man is it gonna work.


Help Us Help Edmonton

As promised, here’s more detail on our new TV show and what you could do to help.

So, our show the edmontonian presents is set to debut next month in May on Shaw TV, and we’ll be producing six episodes of fantastically local television. Note that I did not say it would be good television. But moving pictures nonetheless.

And we, as always, want your help.

Since it’s a TV show we’ll need something visual. But it can be a video you’ve shot, art, animations, music, whatever you’ve got.  Send us a link (if, for example, it’s on YouTube) or attach your file to an e-mail.

We’re looking for your stories, your way Edmonton.

But it shouldn’t have any swearing or nudity. It’s got to stick to CRTC rules and broadcast standards. Yes, we shall finally have standards.

To help get your brain juices flowing, our first three episodes have the following themes:

Firsts

Money

Spring

Submissions must fit our themes, but how they fit is certainly up for interpretation. Hit us with your creativity, Edmonton!

And e-mail us if you’ve got any other questions (or if you want to help in some other way).

Since this is also filed under self-promotion, if you’ve got a business you’d like to advertise, the show is also looking for sponsors.


Do Not Adjust your Set

Hi, Edmonton, it’s been a little while since we fired off a letter to you. Pull up a virtual chair and let’s have an Internet chat.

But not the sexy kind of Internet chat. (Maybe later?)

So, you may or may not have noticed that we like to dabble in video content. We’ve done video stories, some live shows, and even had the third most-popular election night broadcast.

But it wasn’t enough. We wanted more.

We wanted new ways to tell Edmonton’s stories. We wanted new ways for you to contribute.

Enter the edmontonian presents; our new 30-minute show, set to debut on Shaw TV this April May. (And also coming to an Internet and iTunes near you.)

What this means for you, dear friends, is new content to consume, to laugh at, and to share. And, as mentioned, a new way for you to contribute to the edmontonian. We always want you to be a part of the editorial team, and this show will be no different.  Look for a list of upcoming episode themes and contributor guidelines, to be posted next week.

What it means for us is playing with our new camera. And a new venue for fart jokes and puns about Edmonton.

Get ready. We’re going to break your TV with awesomeness.

Love,

Jeff and Sally


End of the Year Headlines

I think I have to eat all of those candy canes by midnight.

I’m not going to sugarcoat this, Edmonton, it’s been a slower couple of weeks in the news. Today is not much of an exception, with just a handful of stories. That doesn’t mean they aren’t important. Even on the quieter days there are stories that should be read. Heck, it’s probably easier to keep on top of the daily news when a lot of news staff is on holiday.

Before we get to the news of the day, however, I have one piece of business to get to.

Thanks.

2010 is done in a few hours and we want to thank you for spending time with us this year.We couldn’t be writing anything on December 31 without all the help from contributors, collaborators, advertisers, and supporters, but it’s most important to have someone on the other end of the conversation.

I think 2011 is going to be an even bigger year around here. So, stick around and whatnot.

New Year’s means resolutions. Umm… How about I actually get out of bed on time, more often, which would mean a little more consistency in post times. That sounds good to me. But I also have to quit smoking, lose weight, exercise more, be better with money, and write that novel I’ve been talking about, so bare with me as I chomp through those resolutions.

Now…the year isn’t done yet! (more…)


Auctions and ads

I was going to tell you about an auction of wedding photos you might be interested in. Then the auctioneer started advertising with us. So I felt weird about it.

Then I figured you’d still want to hear about a potential way to snag some wedding photos for cheap (depending how the auction goes, of course). So, I sucked it up, and thought that, as long as we’re totally transparent about the fact that Paper Tiger Media is one of our advertisers, but didn’t pay for a mention in a post, we’d all be cool.

So, we’re cool?

Anyway…Paper Tiger Media, an Edmonton-based photography and video studio is offering you (or someone you know) the chance at a full wedding photo package for an unknown price. The price is unknown because they’re auctioning off the deal. Right now the wedding package bid is at $155. I don’t know what wedding photos usually go for, but I’d hazard a guess to say it’s more than $155. You have until November 21 to bid.

Do you know of any other Edmonton businesses auctioning off services?

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After kicking around the idea of talking about Paper Tiger Media’s idea, we found that all of our advertisers have something going on right now. So, unsolicited by them, I’m going to tell you about it.

Our Traveling Tickle Trunk friend Brenda just got back from Calgary, where she was at the Taboo show. It’s like the Taboo show we had in Edmonton, but it was in Calgary. That’s some solid, sexy Edmonton representation.

Tailz is about to start some “puppy socialization” classes. There is so much out there for pets it continually blows my mind. (I mean, we had something called Dogapalooza!)

And, of course, the Exposure Festival is on right now (also running until the 21st.). Festivals don’t stop just because summer does.

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If you’re looking to promote your Edmonton business or event you can always talk to us about advertising options. We happen to know of a local website which might just be a good place to get the word out.


Thanks

We make a lot of jokes around here (some are even funny) but we know when to break it down for a minute.

This is one of those times.

We get to have fun, and talk about broken doors and silly signs, because braver people than us fought for freedoms they didn’t even know would exist today.

So, thanks to Canada’s veterans, men and women who continue to serve in the armed forces for noble reasons, those who came before us and made sacrifices, and those who never made it back.

Edmontonians always turn out for Remembrance Day ceremonies. And that's something to be proud of.


Sick Day

Just a little heads-up to you; we’re sick.

So, while we film Outbreak 2: The Outbreakening at the edmontonian offices, things may be a little slow around here. Oh, and if we succumb to this weird monkey-virus or whatever, avenge us.


They will not be undersold

edmonton, teddy's

Ah, Teddy's. It's like it's still 30 years ago.

I have an apology for you, Edmonton.

Falklands is so much better than my shrimp boat-filled story lead you to believe.

I knew they were good. I’ve been listening to their album non-stop since Mark Budd handed it over.

But after seeing them live at Teddy’s on the weekend…wow.

I undersold this great Edmonton band, and for that I am sorry. That was a show, Saturday!

After the jump…some images of the evening. (more…)


An election alliance

It has come to our attention that Edmonton television stations Global, CBC, CityTV, and ACCESS will not be providing a live election show, Monday, October 18.

They may have screen-crawls and the odd update in a commercial break.

So, since we here at the edmontonian plan to be live on the web when polls close at 8pm, we saw two choices.

We could make fun of Global, CBC, and the gang of local broadcasters for not doing a show on what is about the biggest night of Edmonton news, for the next three years. Or we could offer our services to what is clearly a collection of cash-strapped television stations.

In this age of collaboration, where traditional news providers are struggling to make their way in the digital world, we extend our hand to Edmonton’s beleaguered news broadcasters.

We’ll be live, at 8pm, Monday night. We’ll have live election results, analysis, reports from the field, and Pepe. And since some local TV stations can’t find a way to bring news of the election to the people, as it’s happening, we’re offering our program, “the edmontonian celebrates democracy,” to them.

If you know anyone at Global, CBC, CityTV, or ACCESS let them know they can broadcast our show through their airwaves. It might just save local TV.

p.s. I’m really quite serious. If you’re at Global, CBC, CityTV, or ACCESS, and have been losing sleep because you just couldn’t think of a way to put together a live election night show, e-mail me and we’ll see if we can partner up.


Old stories (and comments)

So, like all websites worth their salt, we get flooded with spam.

This actually comes up when you Google "old."

But I noticed that a lot of the spam traffic was on our older posts. So I decided to take action!

I closed the comments on stories and posts older than 30 days. That’s, so far, cut the spam count way down.

What it means for you, dear friends, is that you can’t leave a comment on a story that’s been up for more than 30 calendar days. So, if you bounce around to some of our older stuff (or find yourself there through one of our links), and you want to say something on that item, just drop us an e-mail.

We’ll either get your thoughts loud and clear or post them as a comment, if you’re after that.

Until we have a vast array of interns to fetch us coffee and patrol our comments these are the sacrifices we have to make.


Spam, spam, spam, egg, and spam

We love hearing from you.

We love having conversations with you in the comments of our various posts even more.

But we do have a little comment moderating going on. So, if you’re new to the place, let us know if you’ve dropped in a comment and it isn’t showing up.

First-time comments are always held for moderation (this includes posting with a different e-mail address).

Comments with multiple links (Derjis knows what I’m talking about) are also held. We also have filters on a bunch of dirty words (like porn, Gregg) so even if we write a story about something sexy and you want to say something sexy it might be held. Just drop us an e-mail or tweet to ask (politely) where the hell your comment is and why we’re censoring you.

If you do comment and find it’s not appearing, it’s probably for one of those reasons mentioned.

We get a lot of spam. While we do try to look through all of the “pending” comments for real ones, we’re sure to miss one eventually. So let us know if your thoughts aren’t showing up.

Then you can comment about how awful we are at moderating comments.


Ask more questions

While that headline could be taken in a philosophical manner, it shouldn’t be.

Nope. We’ve just added a handy “click here for e-mails when there’s a new comment,” kind of thing to our posts. Now you can comment, click to be notified of any other comments, and really be part of a conversation.

Plus, it’s really nice to be notified by e-mail of comments on something you’ve commented on because you can be lazy and not have to check back.

But I know you check back here. Like 10 times a day. Right?

RIGHT?!

Ahem. Thanks for being part of the Edmonton conversation.

I believe this image shows what I'm talking about.

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Hey, while I’ve got you here, let me be the first to officially invite you to the 1st birthday of the edmontonian and The Unknown Studio. It’s going to be Monday, August 23.

So don’t go balls-out crazy the last weekend of the Fringe. You’ll nee energy to party with us. And eat cake.

Don’t forget to help us pay for the greatest birthday gift of all. And if you come to the party you’ll get to see the gift as it happens.


What a year

Alberta Legislature, fountain, edmonton

This was the first photo I used in a post. We're all about the nostalgia.

As I mentioned in the Headlines today, we’re 1.

(Notable people we share birthdays with: The Unknown Studio, sort of…Edmonton reporter Simon Ostler…Queen of the Cougars, Courtney Cox…K-9 star Jim Belushi…Neil Patrick Harris, freakin’ NPH…Ice Cube…Waylon Jennings…and Helen Hunt…not bad company at all.)

We had to go back and check when we actually posted for the first time last year, since it’s been a long year. It’s been a lot of blogging, but, as with most things, life also gets in the way. So I mean it when I say the edmontonian has had a long year. Heck, I was really blown away when looking through our old stories. It was lots of “We did that? We talked about that already?”

I like hearing the guys at The Unknown Studio joke in their podcasts that Scott never thought they’d see one year, and Adam gets to gloat. (They’re also turning one!) I feel the same way, sometimes.

the edmontonian is a blog. But it’s just a website. It’s a news aggregator. But it’s also a content creator. It’s an online magazine. It’s about Edmonton. It’s a conversation. It’s just a blog. It’s a place where anyone can share their stories, whether in an actual post or photos or just in the comments.

I think I’ve seen, in the last year, how titles and jurisdictions and mediums matter less. I really don’t think it matters if you’re putting out stories of Edmonton on TV, newspapers, radio, online, in magazines, in photos or videos. People want information, they want discussion, they want to solve problems and celebrate victories. Personally, I feel the Internet can do a combination of that better than traditional mediums (if only for interaction and constant updating) but as long as newsrooms and blogs and people telling stories are after truth I think it’s all good.

Truth being stories about this place we live in, good and bad. Truth being facts not plainly stated or available, sometimes only revealed through digging of crusading reporters. Truth being that we’re all in this, so we better find some common ground and try to solve problems, be for something and not against everything.

And truth being that we’ll talk about stuff like broken doors and mall openings because it’s fun and funny, not because we think it will attract eyeballs.

And I like to think this is all part of a wider connection of blogs, podcasts and passionate Edmontontians that are changing, not just how the city approaches things, but also, the way people get their news.

There you go. Edmonton’s got a world-class online, and tech, community. That’s how you become a great place to live, you do it without trying.

Don't go shopping for glasses with Sally. She'll just take photos of you to make you look like a perv.

It’s been a wild year. I can’t believe we’re still here, and I’m glad we are. I can’t believe people readily write for us and team up with us. I’m blown away when people talk about us, or thank us for talking about their blog or their issues.

It’s humbling. And it’s not something I always got, or recognized, when working in daily news. This little blog has changed my life.

Thanks for sticking with us for one year. We hope to be thanking you again in 365 days.


A new way to follow the election

Hey, Edmontonians, I’m happy to announce that EdmontonPolitics.com is live and rocking the Internet.

I guess I should tell you what the heck EdmontonPolitics.com is so you have an idea of why I’m excited.Edmonton Politics, logo

It’s a municipal and school board election year so I started thinking about doing something big for election night. Then I saw what a team of bloggers was up to down in Calgary with their election. I mentioned the possibilities of Edmonton’s online newsies joining forces to Dave(berta) and, next thing you know, we’ve got a website that will cover the 2010 election.

Talking with Dave Cournoyer and other bloggers, and online types, the energy around the conversation really got me excited. It felt like this was something waiting to be done. And now we’re doing it.

I also like talking about it here, because it makes me think of a new series from B.C’s The Tyee, where they’re highlighting stories from the hyper-local Vancouver Observer. It’s interesting to see how online publications feel fine mentioning others, while I think you’ll be waiting some time before the Sun tells you to check out stories in the Journal.

Anyway, I hope to see EdmontonPolitics.com (or EP.com) be an online source of information, stories, opinions, and fun related to the October elections. While they don’t know it yet, I’m also going to try and recruit a bunch of people I know to write and document the election for us, regardless of them being regular bloggers.

We’re also hoping to break down barriers to political coverage. I know I still struggle with writing information in a way that’s accessible to people not versed in the topic at hand. It’s a problem a lot of reporters have.

So, hopefully we make it easier to know what the hell people are talking about with a glossary of acronyms, buzzwords, and people that will be mentioned in the election. And we’ll always be open to questions because I bet some people don’t vote, because they haven’t studied government since school, and just don’t feel like they know anything. EdmontonPolitics.com aims to include everyone in the discussion and get them voting.

Let me know what you’d like to have explained, or covered, here in the comments or over at EP.com.


The answers are ahead of us

Since I attended MediaCamp Edmonton, helped the organizers throw it together, and generally will not turn down an opportunity to talk like I’m a smart guy, here are some of my thoughts on the event.

Jas Darrah explaining an "unconference" is about to get all up in our grills.

It all went down Saturday, May 8, in Salon 12 of Edmonton’s Shaw Conference Centre.

Those in attendance included a whole lotta Edmonton Journalers, lots of people from public and media relations and communications, a smattering of people from Edmonton’s other newsrooms, bloggers, freelancers, podcasters, and some developers. (Of the computer kind, not property.)

The day was about bringing developers and tech-savvy people together with media and those in the communications business. I wouldn’t say there was any more outcome than that planned.

People who are trying to communicate with a wider audience, whether in traditional news, online media or PR and media relations are watching their worlds change. And things are changing quickly.

So, what better way to be reassured you aren’t the only one without an answer than getting together with 200 other people without the answers?

I hope that’s one thing people took away from MediaCamp. Technology is changing so quickly, altering all the ways we communicate, that nobody quite knows how things will look in six months, let alone five years.

“If the old model is broken, what will work in its place?” The answer is: Nothing will work, but everything might. Now is the time for experiments, lots and lots of experiments…”

Saying no to an idea right now is probably the worst option. Even if the idea itself sounds terrible. We don’t know what’s going to work.

Somebody approached me with an idea, Saturday, and while my brain was telling me it would never work my mouth was telling this person it was interesting and I wanted to hear more. It was tough for me to overcome my brain’s opinion but if I want to keep writing and talking with the public I’m going to have to be open to options.

The headline of this post doesn’t just speak to everyone in the media and communications fields continuing to talk and put together plans that might just become answers. It also speaks to some of the debate that popped up at #yegmediacamp.

Of course the question “What is a journalist?” devolved into a blog vs. journalist discussion. I think this question is tired.

I joked that my pitch for the day was going to be “Blogger vs. Journalist, let’s go fight.” I knew that debate wasn’t going to solve anything, wasn’t going to come up with anything tangible. Yet, I found myself sitting in that group.

(My actual pitch was for building the relationships between bloggers and PR/media relations. Seems the two sides are interested in finding each other, we just need a way.)

Look, if someone sitting in a newsroom doesn’t want to deal with a writer who will talk about their community, talk about important issues and politics – for free and/or in their spare time – that’s their call.

And if someone writing or podcasting doesn’t want to deal with a guy who works in a newsroom because he’s “old” or working in a “dead” medium, that’s his call too.

But people are reading blogs. They are listening to podcasts. They view photos and videos from these “amateurs.” And they’re still getting news and information from traditional newsrooms, in print, radio, TV and online. (I include both mainstream and alternative/independent news in the traditional camp.)

There are relationships to be had between both of those news worlds and the PR/media relations universe too.

Don't look at me, I don't know the answer!

So, we’ll either start learning from each other and working together on content, advertising, promotion, everything. Or we’ll continue to bicker, splinter audiences and never really reach the goal.

The goal, in my opinion, being a really well-informed public that gets its information from as many sources as possible and makes great decisions that better our community. The goal isn’t the largest audience or biggest paycheque.

But, hey, the day wasn’t all fighting and looking for the quickest way to keep the money flowing in the online age.

200 people showed up. WAY more than we had planned on. That speaks to a real hunger to find out what to do, what might work.

Everyone (or almost every single person) in the room instantly shot their hand into the air when asked if they’d come back to another similar event. People walking away without definitive answers and wanting more discussion that doesn’t guarantee solutions has to be a success.

If you were there and something sparked your interest explore it. Talk to someone who was there. Talk to someone who wasn’t.

This information revolution is messy, but we can figure it out by working together.

And if you just want to sit around and whine about someone or something that’s taken your audience, job, pants, move out of the way so we can get on with the business of informing, and being informed.

More ideas: See what people were/are talking about. Talk to someone who was there, someone who might be able to work with you on a new idea.